Tobi also hosts a podcast called Volunteer Nation filled with great tips and tricks. In the 20-minute episode titled “The WOW! Volunteer Experience” Tobi encourages us to “give volunteers the best gift of all, a well-run program." She also states that we should "...want to think about what are more meaningful and really significant ways we can make volunteers lives better. And part of it is making sure that the time they spend with us is top notch, best in class.” Listen to the episode to get some ideas about creating a WOW program— one that is Warm, Optimistic, and Well-Designed.