Several things are going on at the National Geodetic Survey (NGS), most notably the current datums: North American Datum of 1983 (NAD83) and North American Vertical Datum of 1988 (NAVD88) are scheduled to be replaced with new datums, North American Terrestrial Reference Frame of 2022 (NATRF2022) and North American-Pacific Geopotential Datum of 2022 (NAPGD2022). This article will outline several of the steps to get to the new reference frame and vertical datum and how we at the local level in Arizona can be involved to influence the products we receive back from NGS. According to the current schedule, this is all happening only about four years from now.