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COMMENTARY: CANADA ACCEDES TO U.N. ARMS TRADE TREATY - PART 1
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What does Canada’s “accession” to the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty mean for Canada’s shooting community? The answer to that question really depends on whom you ask and what their agenda is.
If the agenda is pro-gun fundraising then the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty is "the worst thing imaginable in the history of the world since the licensing of gun owners and the universal registration of firearms."
If the agenda is anti-gun, full implementation of the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty "is absolutely benign and will not affect legitimate civilian gun ownership at all."
Of course, the real truth lies somewhere in between.
Let’s start with another important question first, and we’ll answer our primary question a little later.
We'll start by asking this:
Before we spend a fortune in tax dollars limiting more rights and freedoms, is there a pressing and urgent need for Canada to join the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty?
The short answer is no. Canada already implements and complies with all but one of the articles of the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty. Global Affairs Minister Stéphane Dion even admits this in his own press release issued on June 30, 2016:
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Canada already meets the vast majority of ATT obligations. In fact, the ATT was designed to bring other countries up to the type of high standard that Canada already applies through its robust export control regime:
- We already control the export of all A.T.T. relevant goods.
- We have measures in place to prevent diversion of the goods transferred.
- We comply with all explicit prohibitions listed in article 6 of the treaty.
- We already assess for the type of risks identified in the A.T.T., such as that an export could be used for terrorist activities or against peace and security or international human rights law.
- In fact, Canada fully complies with all 28 articles of the treaty but two: articles 7 (about export assessment criteria and over-riding risk test) and 10 (about brokering).”
Minister Dion is not completely forthright when he says Canada does not fully comply with Article 7. We already take all the factors described in the treaty into account. What we don’t do is have this formally codified in Canadian law. As Minister Dion says, our complying is “
neither explicit nor formalized in our current export criteria.”
We already comply with Article 7. We simply don’t make an explicit reference to that compliance in Canada’s
Export and Import Permits Act, something Minister Dion will address when he introduces legislation to change the
Export and Import Permits Act later this year.
Dion goes on to say:
“Today, Canada is the only NATO ally and only G7 partner not to have signed or ratified the treaty, the previous government claiming that it might affect domestic gun laws, which is completely and categorically untrue.”
This statement is only partially true. Yes, Canada is the only N.A.T.O. ally and G7 nation who has not signed the treaty, but that’s where the truth ends. You see, when our greatest ally and most important partner, the United States, signed it, they did so under the express knowledge that the Senate would vote down its ratification.
Which they did – and when Canada stands shoulder to shoulder with our friends in the U.S.A., we are hardly alone.
Article 2 of the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty says:
1. This Treaty shall apply to all conventional arms within the following categories:
- Battle tanks;
- Armoured combat vehicles;
- Large-calibre artillery systems;
- Combat aircraft;
- Attack helicopters;
- Warships;
- Missiles and missile launchers; and
- Small arms and light weapons.
Note the very last item of Article 2, Section 1.
“h) Small arms and light weapons.”
Canada, under former Prime Minister Stephen Harper, requested that civilian firearms specifically be removed from the Arms Trade Treaty in order to protect the interests of Canada’s lawful firearms community.
The U.N. ignored our nation's request to respect the interests of Canadians and refused to remove civilian firearms from the language of the Arms Trade Treaty. So the Harper government did what was right: it stood up for Canadian sovereignty and Canadian gun owners and refused to sign the treaty.
All Canadian rifles, semi-automatic or otherwise, all handguns and most shotguns fall into the broad category of “
small arms and light weapons.” To claim, as Minister Dion does in his press release, that “
the previous government claiming that it might affect domestic gun laws, which is completely and categorically untrue” is false according to Arms Trade Treaty Article 2.
The obvious question to both the U.N. and Minister Dion is this: If the Arms Trade Treaty does not and will not affect civilian firearms then why does the United Nations insist they be included in the A.T.T.? It’s a valid question and one where Minister Dion is, to be polite, disingenuous with his answer.
But how does all this really affect Canadian gun owners? There are a number of ways, only some of which are apparent before Canada’s government finalizes how it will apply the full terms of the Arms Trade Treaty.
We know the Treaty applies to civilian firearms. Article 2 Section 2 states:
For the purposes of this Treaty, the activities of the international trade comprise export, import, transit, trans-shipment and brokering, hereafter referred to as “transfer”.
The two most important words in that section for Canadian gun owners are “export” and “import” and while we're at it, let's include "trans-shipment.”
Should the American government refuse an export permit to an American firearm manufacturer, then Canadian gun owners will no longer have access to those firearms.
Should the Canadian government deny a Canadian importer of those firearms then, even with a US Export Permit in place, we will no longer have access to those firearms.
"Trans-shipment?" Beretta Italy sends sporting firearms to Beretta USA. Beretta Canada requests some of them for our market, but Beretta USA cannot ship them to Canada without special permission because the End-User Certificate (EUC) filled out by Beretta Italy said “Beretta U.S.A. – Civilian”. This is just an example, you can think up ten more scenarios like that without breaking a sweat.
If those scenarios sound preposterous, then you need only read the very first sentence of Article 5, Section 3. You will quickly realize it could happen in an instant with a single stroke of a bureaucratic pen.
Article 5 (3) Each State Party is encouraged to apply the provisions of this Treaty to the broadest range of conventional arms.
There are many more aspects to the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty that must be explored by Canadian gun owners if we’re to understand exactly what this Treaty could mean for us. And we will explore each of those areas in upcoming editions of CSSA E-News.
So stay tuned.
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TRUDEAU QUIETLY SIGNS ON TO UN ARMS TRADE TREATY
By Brian Lilley | Rebel.com | June 30, 2016
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The Trudeau government is signing Canada on to another United Nations treaty, one that critics say will deliver little in the way of benefits to Canadians but will harm our national sovereignty in years to come.
Global Affairs Minister Stephane Dion quietly issued a statement on Thursday morning announcing that Canada will accede to the Arms Trade Treaty. The stated purpose of the global pact is to stop the flow of small arms such as rifles and pistols to terror groups, organized crime and oppressive regimes.
Tony Bernardo, Executive Director of the Canadian Shooting Sports Association, tells The Rebel that export controls to achieve these goals already exist in Canada.
According to Bernardo export controls in Canada are strict and require government approval.
By signing on to the UN treaty however, he says we are giving up the ability to control Canadian law.
“It is outrageous that Canada would choose to abdicate her sovereignty to the United Nations,” Bernardo said.
“Every six years, a 75% majority of countries at the UN will be permitted to determine our nation's laws. It seems inconceivable that the Canadian government would agree to throw our democracy under the bus.”
Under the treaty a majority of countries at the UN can change the text of the treaty. Even if Canada opposed the changes the new rules would still apply in Canada unless the government were to formally withdraw their signature.
The treaty has also been criticized for the expectation that compliance costs for manufacturers and even retailers will rise making the costs of firearms in Canada higher.
Dion said in a statement that Canada is the only NATO and G7 country not to have signed on to the ATT, a statement that is both true and false at the same time.
While the United States signed the treaty they have not ratified due to a lack of support in Congress, effectively making their signature meaningless.
“Accession to the treaty will reflect Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s commitment to multilateralism,” Dion said.
See the story: http://www.therebel.media/trudeau_government_quietly_signs_on_to_un_arms_trade_treaty
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STATEMENT BY CONSERVATIVE MP ZIMMER ON GOVERNMENT'S DECISION TO ACCEDE THE UNITED NATIONS ARMS TRADE TREATY
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OTTAWA – Bob Zimmer, Member of Parliament for Prince George-Peace River-Northern Rockies, issued the following statement regarding the Liberal government’s decision to accede the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty:
“It is unfortunate that Canada’s rigorous firearms system will now have an added layer of unnecessary red tape thanks to the decision by the Liberal government to accede the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.
“I believe that Canada already has measures in place to protect public safety that are far superior to the model offered by the United Nations. It is why I introduced a Private Members’ Motion in the previous Parliament which highlighted Canada’s extensive firearms safety regulations and discouraged the government from adopting the United Nations resolution 55/255 concerning firearms, and more specifically firearms markings.
“I firmly believe that any arms trade treaty should recognize and acknowledge the legitimacy of law-abiding firearms ownership and I am deeply concerned about how this treaty will affect responsible firearms owners in Canada.
“I will continue to support a system that respects the rights of Canada’s law-abiding firearms owners and outdoors traditions, while also helping to protect the safety of our communities.”
For more information: 613-947-4524
See the news release: http://www.bobzimmer.ca/statement-by-mp-zimmer-on-governments-decision-to-accede-the-united-nations-arms-trade-treaty/
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IT'S "INDEPENDENCE DAY," NOT "THE FOURTH OF JULY"
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By Vincent DeNiro | Ammoland.com | June 29, 2016
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Comments by Vincent DeNiro.
(Editors Note, the following internet posting “The Price Our Founding Fathers Paid” ~ Unknown Author, while mostly accurate has some facts not totally correct, but is still an important enough reminder to be include here.)
USA -(Ammoland.com)- You don’t say “Happy December 25th!” on Christmas Day or “What are you doing for the 25th?” do you?
Remember, Independence Day (NOT “the fourth” or “The Fourth of July) is not about hot dogs, swimming, BBQs, drinking beer, store sales, etc.
It’s about the separation from an oppressive government and the American Revolutionary War which gave Americans something that no other people in the history of the world ever had – true individual freedom & liberty where the government was subservient to them.
Read and reflect about what the first American people went through so that you could have a Bill of Rights, the right to vote, freedom to speak, own weapons for defense, freedom of religion, ability to own private property, freedom from government oppression, and many other freedoms that set us apart from ALL other governments in world history.
Please share this great read, called “The Price They Paid” that follows below with your friends and family that you celebrate with on Independence Day. This is very important especially when there are so many Americans ready to throw freedom away in 2016. Maybe this Independence Day, before the BBQ s, food, and fireworks, etc., start another tradition: you can thank God for this nation and watch a documentary with family and friends about its founding and freedoms.
The Price They Paid
Author Unknown
Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence? What fates befell them for daring to put their names to that document?
Five signers were captured by the British as traitors and tortured before they died.
Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned.
Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army, another had two sons captured.
Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War.
They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.
What kind of men were they?
Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured.
Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.
Thomas McKean was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.
Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.
At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.
Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.
John Hart was driven from his wife’s bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year, he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later, he died from exhaustion and a broken heart.
Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates.
Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more.
Standing talk straight, and unwavering, they pledged: “For the support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of the divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.”
They gave you and me a free and independent America. The history books never told you a lot about what happened in the Revolutionary War. We didn’t fight just the British. We were British subjects at that time and we fought our own government!
Some of us take these liberties so much for granted, but we shouldn’t.
So, take a few minutes while enjoying your “4th of July” Holiday and silently thank these patriots. It’s not much to ask for the price they paid. Remember: Freedom is never free!
I hope you will show your support by please sending this to as many people as you can. It’s time we get the word out that patriotism is NOT a sin, and the Fourth of July has more to it than beer, picnics, and baseball games.
About Vincent DeNiro
With a nine-page resume, Vincent DeNiro has more than 33 years of experience working in the firearm and defense industries, at the management and executive levels, for some of the largest companies in the areas of marketing, advertising, business development, import, export, product development/management as well as having top industry sales. He has also been credited with leading the defeat of the first city “assault weapons” ban in the U.S. back in 1989, has worked in the film industry as a theatrical armorer since 1991, is a former deputy sheriff, a 1992 Eastern USA Martial Arts Hall of Fame inductee, was the Editor-In-Chief of Prepper & Shooter Magazine, and has been shooting and gun collecting since 1974. He can be reached through his website at DeNiroMarketingGroup.com.
See the story: http://www.ammoland.com/2016/06/independence-day-not-fourth-july/#axzz4DMCqP12p
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PAUL RYAN SAYS HOUSE TO VOTE ON BARRING GUNS FOR SUSPECTED TERRORISTS
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By Alan Fram | The Associated Press | June 30, 2016
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WASHINGTON – With Democrats applying election-year pressure to act on gun control, Republican Speaker Paul Ryan said Thursday the House will vote next week on a GOP proposal aimed at keeping suspected terrorists from obtaining firearms.
Ryan’s plan, which he described during a conference call with Republican lawmakers, seems unlikely to quell the partisan showdown that has intensified since the June 12 mass shooting in Orlando, Florida. Two Republicans said the House is expected to vote on legislation resembling a National Rifle Association-backed bill that the Senate rejected last week after it was opposed by most Democrats.
Ryan, R-Wis., said the House will consider broad legislation also aimed at preventing extremist groups from radicalizing and recruiting sympathizers. He said lawmakers will also vote on a measure aimed at buttressing mental health programs.
Ryan said it is “just common sense” to keep firearms from terrorists, but he said it must be done while protecting the right to own guns, according to an official on the call. Ryan said Democrats were trying to change the focus of the debate about the Orlando killings from gun control to terrorism “because they cannot stand on their terrorism record,” the official said.
The Orlando massacre, in which 49 victims died at a nightclub, was conducted by Omar Mateen. Killed by authorities during his siege, Mateen was an American who pledged allegiance to a leader of the Islamic State extremist group, according to a transcript of his phone calls with officials during the shootings.
Last week, Democrats staged a nearly 26-hour sit-in on the House floor demanding votes on firearms curbs. With the House in recess this week, many held home-district events around the country Wednesday to publicize their effort.
“House Democrats will keep up our efforts to push for the majority to allow a vote on gun violence legislation, but bringing up a bill authored by the NRA just isn’t going to cut it,” said Drew Hammill, spokesman for House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.
Ryan’s office provided no details about the bills the House will consider.
Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., said he understands the House measure will be similar to one by Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, that the Senate defeated. It would let authorities block gun sales to suspected extremists, but only if prosecutors could prove in court within three days that the would-be purchaser was likely involved in terrorism.
Rep. Lee Zeldin, R-N.Y., facing a tough re-election race this fall, has introduced legislation similar to Cornyn’s.
King said he was not on Ryan’s conference call, but a second Republican on that call described the speaker’s plans the same way.
King has sponsored the House version of a stronger bill by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., that the Senate also killed. It would let the government block gun sales to suspected terrorists and allow an appeal by the would-be buyer after the transaction has already been denied.
Republicans say the Cornyn measure protects gun owners’ constitutional rights. Democrats say giving prosecutors three days to prove a gun buyer is probably involved in terrorism makes it too hard to thwart firearms sales.
The officials described Ryan’s plans on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the call publicly.
See the story: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/e1d559b0347341a4a5daf809bba99ef1/ryan-house-vote-barring-guns-suspected-terrorists
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CANADA IN THE ROUGH
BOWHUNTING NEWFOUNDLAND'S BIG GAME
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Nearing the tail end of the moose rut, Paul ventured into a remote
archery-only camp in Newfoundland in search of moose and black bear.
While
battling horribly high winds, massive rain storms and thick fog, he enjoyed
a hunt-of-a-lifetime with many exciting wildlife encounters.
See the trailer:
http://www.canadaintherough.com/bowhunting-nflds-big-game/
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CONCEALED CARRIER TAKES DOWN SHOOTER AT SOUTH CAROLINA NIGHTCLUB
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By Jessica
Chasmal | The Washington Times | June 30, 2016
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A South Carolina man is facing multiple attempted murder charges after he opened fire on a crowd gathering outside a nightclub early Sunday, police said.
Deputies with Spartanburg County said 32-year-old Jody Ray Thompson pulled out an illegally carried firearm during an argument with another man and fired several rounds toward a crowd outside Playoffz nightclub in Lyman, a local NBC News affiliate reported.
“His rounds struck 3 victims, and almost struck a fourth victim, who in self-defense, pulled his own weapon and fired, striking Thompson in the leg,” Lt. Kevin Bobo said.
Lt. Bobo said the man who shot Mr. Thompson, who has not been identified, has a valid concealed weapons permit and will not face any charges.
None of the victims’ injuries were life-threatening, police said.
Mr. Thompson was charged with four counts of attempted murder, possession of a weapon during the commission of a violent crime and unlawful carrying of a weapon. He is being held at the Spartanburg County Detention Center.
See the story: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/30/concealed-carrier-takes-down-shooter-at-south-caro/
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LAW ENFORCEMENT SOURCES: GUN USED IN PARIS TERRORIST ATTACKS CAME FROM PHOENIX
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By Judicial Watch | June 29, 2016
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One of the guns used in the November 13, 2015 Paris terrorist attacks came from Phoenix, Arizona where the Obama administration allowed criminals to buy thousands of weapons illegally in a deadly and futile “gun-walking” operation known as “Fast and Furious.”
A Report of Investigation (ROI) filed by a case agent in the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco Firearms and Explosives (ATF) tracked the gun used in the Paris attacks to a Phoenix gun owner who sold it illegally, “off book,” Judicial Watch’s law enforcement sources confirm. Federal agents tracing the firearm also found the Phoenix gun owner to be in possession of an unregistered fully automatic weapon, according to law enforcement officials with firsthand knowledge of the investigation.
The investigative follow up of the Paris weapon consisted of tracking a paper trail using a 4473 form, which documents a gun’s ownership history by, among other things, using serial numbers. The Phoenix gun owner that the weapon was traced back to was found to have at least two federal firearms violations—for selling one weapon illegally and possessing an unregistered automatic—but no enforcement or prosecutorial action was taken against the individual. Instead, ATF leaders went out of their way to keep the information under the radar and ensure that the gun owner’s identity was “kept quiet,” according to law enforcement sources involved with the case. “Agents were told, in the process of taking the fully auto, not to anger the seller to prevent him from going public,” a veteran law enforcement official told Judicial Watch.
It’s not clear if the agency, which is responsible for cracking down on the illegal use and trafficking of firearms, did this because the individual was involved in the Fast and Furious gun-running scheme. An ATF spokesman, Corey Ray, at the agency’s Washington D.C. headquarters told Judicial Watch that “no firearms used in the Paris attacks have been traced” by the agency. When asked about the ROI report linking the weapon used in Paris to Phoenix, Ray said “I’m not familiar with the report you’re referencing.” Judicial Watch also tried contacting the Phoenix ATF office, but multiple calls were not returned.
The ATF ran the Fast and Furious experiment and actually allowed criminals, “straw purchasers,” working for Mexican drug cartels to buy weapons at federally licensed firearms dealers in Phoenix and allowed the guns to be “walked”—possessed without any knowledge of their whereabouts. The government lost track of most of the weapons and many have been used to murder hundreds of innocent people as well as a U.S. Border Patrol agent, Brian Terry, in Arizona. A mainstream newspaper reported that a Muslim terrorist who planned to murder attendees of a Muhammad cartoon contest in Garland, Texas last year bought a 9-millimeter pistol at a Phoenix gun shop that participated in the ATF’s Fast and Furious program despite drug and assault charges that should have raised red flags. Judicial Watch has thoroughly investigated Fast and Furious and has sued the Obama administration for information about the once-secret operation.
See the story: http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2016/06/law-enforcement-sources-gun-used-paris-terrorist-attacks-came-phoenix/
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ME: TWO ARMED WALMART SHOPPERS STOP NY DRUG DEAL SHOOTOUT
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By Dean Weingarten | Ammoland.com | June 29, 2016
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Arizona -(Ammoland.com)- A drug deal was going down in a WalMart parking lot. Some of the participants were not happy with the deal. They could not use the criminal justice system, so they used guns. Shots were exchanged between occupants of two cars in the lot. The WalMart parking lot was not in New York or New Jersey. This WalMart was in Augusta, Maine, and in Maine, responsible and honest people can legally carry guns. Two honest and responsible gun carriers stopped the shooting.
The shooting in the Maine WalMart was between New York residents, and it involved Heroin. The four parties arrested were named in an article by centralmaine.com. There was no mention of the responsibly armed people who stopped the shoot out and defused the situation. The suspected drug deal and shootout participants were:
Kwiesha “Reggie” McBride of Harlem, New York. Charged with Reckless Conduct with a firearm
Frankie Dejesus of Rochester, N.Y. Charged with Aggravated Assault
Diana Davis of Rochester, N.Y. Charged with Aggravated assault
Samantha Tupper is the blond local woman from Augusta, ME. She is charged with a probation violation.
Media competition is keen in these days of new media and the Internet. If one outlet does not cover an interesting angle, another will. Some times you have to look at several sources to find things left out of the picture in others. From wcsh6.com:
AUGUSTA, Maine (NEWS CENTER) — Augusta Police say two bystanders, legally armed with handguns, stepped in during a shooting incident at a Walmart in Augusta.
Police say four suspects were taken into custody by police Sunday after allegedly firing gunshots in the parking lot of a Walmart.
The suspects involved were sitting in vehicles parked next to each other when the altercation arose. The occupants of one vehicle fired at the occupants of the other, which resulted in return gunfire.
When the shooting stopped, police said one suspect exited their vehicle to confront the occupants of the other. This is when two bystanders, who were legally carrying, interfered and stopped the incident, police said.
More details are reported by a local television station. Note that when one responsible and armed person stepped up, another backed him up. From wabi.tv:
“Two vehicles that had appeared were parked next to each other. The occupants inside exchanged gunfire and then there was an altercation after that between the occupants in the parking lot,” said Lt. Christopher Massey with Augusta PD.
During the altercation, customer Daniel Chavanne, who was about to leave with his wife and kids, took matters into his own hands. We’re told Chavanne, a licensed concealed carrier, drew his firearm and diffused the situation. Then another armed shopper came to Chavanne’s aid.
“If they hadn’t stepped in, somebody would have been hurt, severely hurt. You know one of my kids could have got shot,” said Chavanne’s wife, Carrie.
While Dan Chavanne may have a concealed carry license now, he started as an open carrier at the age of 18. In Maine, when Chavanne was 18, he could legally open carry, but could not obtain a concealed carry permit. From wgme.com:
“The way the fight was going, I have no doubt if myself and the other person didn’t intervene there would have been at least one body there,” Dan Chavanne said.
Dan says he’s open carried since he was 18, because of situations like this.
“If you’ve got the background, the experience and the training there’s no reason not to carry,” Dan Chavanne said.
The Chavannes said that the criminals were really bad shots.
Chavvane’s personal defensive handgun was a subcompact Glock, likely a Model 43 or 42.
The other good Samaritan did not have their name released. There is no mention of whether or not they had a concealed carry permit. Maine became a permitless or “Constitutional” carry state in October of 2015. This makes the likelihood of an honest, responsible person legally carrying a defensive firearm much higher. That makes Maine more dangerous for criminals.
It is a reality that the suspected heroin dealers learned to their discomfort. It may have saved one or more of their lives.
©2016 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice is included.
About Dean Weingarten;
Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of constitutional carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and recently retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.
See the story: http://www.ammoland.com/2016/06/two-armed-walmart-shoppers-stop-ny-drug-deal-shootout/#axzz4DNBbAWCP
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